Welcome to the How-to Author Series!January’s Featured How-to Author: JAMES SCOTT BELL
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- A signed, hardback copy of Plot & Structure by James Scott Bell
- A Lecture Packet from me, Margie Lawson
A big Thank You to JAMES SCOTT BELL for joining us today. He’ll drop by the blog several times to respond to posts.
As promised in the promo, Factoids and Funtoids about James Scott Bell!
Factoids:
- Award-winning author of nineteen novels
- Author of PLOT & STRUCTURE and REVISION & SELF-EDITING
- A former trial lawyer
- A former fiction columnist for Writer’s Digest Magazine
- An adjunct professor of writing at Pepperdine University
Funtoids:
- A former Off-Broadway actor
- A former actor in commercials
- A guitar-playing-singer-song-writer
His website is www.jamesscottbell.com
Upcoming Releases:
DECEIVED -- a suspense thriller, will be released in March, 2009
TRY FEAR – another Buchanan thriller, will be released in July, 2009
THE ART OF WAR FOR FICTION WRITERS – a new how-to book, will be released November, 2009

Publishers Weekly Review of Deceived:
“Former trial lawyer and Christy Award–winner Bell (Presumed Guilty) hits his stride in this twist-filled suspense thriller...Dialogue carries the book with rich characters...a fast-paced thriller with its Los Angeles music scene, creepy canyons and a slew of cons. Bell, who also writes nonfiction books on writing, is a master of the cliffhanger, creating scene after scene of mounting suspense and revelation in this heart-whamming read.”
James Scott Bell Interview
By Margie Lawson
ML: Your first how-to book, PLOT & STRUCTURE, was published in 2004, nine years after your first novel was released. It's a text in many creative writing programs. What prompted you to write PLOT & STRUCTURE?JSB: I wanted to do a couple of things. First, kill what I call "The Big Lie," which is what I'd heard for years: Fiction writing can't be taught (and variations on that theme, such as, Writers are born, not made). I wasted about ten years believing that Lie. Then I decided I had to write, even if I failed, and determined to try and learn the craft. I found you CAN learn how to do it. So that's one reason I wrote the book.
Also, to save new writers time on the learning curve. What took me many years to figure out I put in the book.
Plus, I like helping writers. Nothing pleases me more than to see one of my former students getting a contract.
ML: You're the author of nineteen novels. You've won awards. You've also written two acclaimed how-to books for writers. What writing rule might you stretch, or snap?
JSB: Writing "rules" are good and necessary when you're learning to write. Like scales on the piano. And usually they are rules for a reason. They work. They make your writing stronger. So I don't usually go out with the intent to break anything.
If I get to a place where I think something will work, I'll use it. But in retrospect I find that, for the most part, things work because of the craft, not in spite of it.
ML: When reading fiction, what are the Top Five irritations that would drive you to frisbee the book out the window? Not that you would . . .
JSB:
1. Point of View inconsistency ("head hopping")
2. Constant adverbs in speaker attributions, he said disgustedly.
3 Exposition dumps, especially in the opening.
4. Author intrusion. When I hear the author's voice, not a POV voice.
5. Overwriting, when cutting flab would make the writing stronger.
ML: In REVISION & SELF-EDITING you recommend 'getting HIP.' Given that it's not the 70's, what did you mean by HIP?? Hip-deep In Prose? Hike in Paris?JSB: Let me slip on my Isaac Hayes outfit and tell you about HIP. It stands for Hook, Intensity and Prompt. It's my little acronym for a great scene. If you can build every scene with HIP, you will have an "un-put-downable" novel.
Basically, you hook the reader from the first line or paragraph. There are ways to do that, like starting with the action or dialogue, and then dropping back for description.
Then, you ratchet up the intensity level. You can always add another 10 – 20% on intensity.
Finally, you leave them with a "prompt" that makes them have to read the next scene. In the book, I give some examples.
ML: Your chapter on dialogue in REVISION & SELF-EDITING is superb. You covered 8 Essentials and Twelve Tools for Great Dialogue. One of my favorites is 'curving' dialogue. Your examples from The Godfather and Seinfeld are page-popping-powerful . Could you explain how to curve dialogue - and provide an example from the small screen, big screen, or your books?
JSB: That chapter is the result of years of not finding much out there on how to write dialogue. As I was studying great dialogue from books and movies, I started coming up with these principles and have been teaching them for at least ten years. They help tremendously because, as I say in the book, dialogue is the fastest way to improve any manuscript.
Here's a tip: If you can put great dialogue on the first or second page of your proposal, the reader will instantly think you know what you're doing.
"Curving the language" is a concept I got when I studied comedy writing with Danny Simon, Neil's older brother (and the one Neil and Woody Allen credit for teaching them to write narrative comedy). It is a way to turn mediocre lines into memorable lines.
What you do is write out the line as it comes to you, probably in a plain vanilla or even clichéd way. Then you play with it. You "curve" it. You don’t throw it out, you just tweak it until it is original.
They did this all the time in Seinfeld. Here's an example I use in the book. In one episode Elaine is suddenly being hit on by Jewish guys. She’s told this is “shiksa appeal.” So she goes to a rabbi to ask about it. The rabbi tells her shiksa appeal is a myth.
Her reply might have been written out the first time this way:
“Something’s going on here, because every healthy Jewish guy I see is making a play for me.”
Not funny. So you curve it. You think, Hmm, what would be a substitute for “healthy Jewish guy”?
“Something’s going on here, because every able-bodied Israelite I see is making a play for me.”
Okay. Now maybe curve it some more:
“Something’s going on here, because every able-bodied Israelite in the county is making a play for me.”
And so on. When it was all over, the line in the show was hilarious:
“Something’s going on here, because every able-bodied Israelite in the county is goin’ pretty strong to the hoop.”
Sometimes, you can just add something fresh to an old line. Harlan Ellison once wrote, "She looked like a million bucks tax free."
That little "tax free" at the end kept it from being a cliché.
ML: The next four questions focus on tenets from PLOT & STRUCTURE. You warn against rushing at the end. How do you avoid the rush?
JSB: Discipline. If you keep to a quota system, you should know how long it will to take you to get to the end. When you do get there, be sure to spend a lot of "brooding" time over it.
It also helps if, as you get toward the end, you are mapping out your climactic scene possibilities, in your head if not on paper or screen.
ML: You introduced an interesting concept, The Force Field of Character Change. Sounds powerful. Could you share a short version of the force field?
JSB: The idea actually came from my days training trial lawyers in jury communication. As human beings, we have certain beliefs and self-concepts that make up who we are. We protect these (put up "force fields") because, if they are disturbed, we get into a state of disequilibrium, which we try to avoid.
The core of your being, your deepest beliefs about yourself and the world, are the hardest things to change. That's because people protect this area at all costs, and thus create "force fields" around it. Your self-image is at the core, then your beliefs, then outward with values, attitudes and opinions.
The easiest things to change are opinions, at the outer edge. But as you go deeper, change is harder.
As a writer, then, you can view the events happening to the character as disturbing the rings of the force field. If you do it skillfully, you can show true character growth by the end of the book.
ML: In your chapter on BEGINNING STRONG, you recommend including six tasks in the beginning portion of a novel. Then you dive into the specifics and tell writers how to successfully carry out those tasks for twenty-six pages. Could you list those six tasks? Here's a follow-up question: You recommend accomplishing those six tasks in the beginning portion of your book. Define: beginning portion.
JSB: The six tasks are:
1. Get the reader hooked.
2. Establish a bond with the reader via the Lead character.
3. Present the story world--tell us something about the setting, the time and the immediate context.
4. Establish the tone the reader will rely upon. Is this to be a sweeping epic or a zany farce? Action packed or dwelling more on character change? Fast moving or leisurely paced?
5. Compel the reader to move on to the middle. Just why should the reader care to continue?
6. Introduce the opposition. Who or what wants to stop the Lead?
The "beginning portion" of the novel is another way of saying Act I. I am a strong believer in the three act structure. You can play with it in many ways, but you ignore it at your peril.
ML: You explore Read on Prompts. Can you share several?
JSB: One of the first things I did when I started to learn how to write was go to my favorite used bookstore and buying up an armload of paperbacks: Grisham, King, Koontz and some others.
Then I read them for study, and one of the things I noticed was how they could end scenes with prompts that make you want to read on. In REVISION, I give a few examples:
- A mysterious line of dialogue.
- An image that is full of foreboding (like the fog rolling in, or a distant sound).
- A secret suddenly revealed.
- A major decision or vow.
- Announcement of a shattering event.
- Reversal or surprise—new information that turns the story around.
- A question left hanging in the air.
ML: In REVISION & SELF-EDITING you discuss the magic of writing. What advice would you give aspiring writers about creating that magic?
JSB: I think the magic comes from having your heart in the story. If you're going about this mechanically, it won't be enough to carry you. You've got to be "juiced" about the story in some way. Usually that happens when you've worked out the LOCK elements of your story up front (Lead, Objective, Confrontation and Knock Out, as explained in PLOT & STRUCTURE)
Then, know your craft. The more you know it, the better you'll feel. Some people say you can't learn from books, or you shouldn't waste your money. I feel exactly the opposite. When I would study a writing book and find a technique that worked for me, I got excited. I have a shelf of my favorite books, and will occasionally grab one and read what I highlighted, and get excited again.
In REVISION & SELF-EDITING I talk about my encounter with Dai Vernon, the greatest card magician of all time, and his "trick that cannot be explained." He could improvise moves on the spot, because he knew his craft so well.
I apply that to writing. You face a problem, a creative challenge, and you use your tools to find a way through it. That's when writing becomes magical.
ML: Last question! You have a new how-to book for writers coming out in November. I'm intrigued with the title. Can you give us the WHY and WHAT on THE ART OF WAR FOR FICTION WRITERS?
JSB: It's a riff on Sun Tzu's ancient classic. A handbook, basically, of axioms, with some commentary. The idea is to fill in some cracks in the traditional teaching on fiction writing. To go a little deeper, to offer some of the "extras" that can elevate a manuscript above the slush. Along with advice on the business of writing and how one should approach it.
Hopefully, people will still be reading it 2000 years after it comes out, just like generals still read Sun Tzu.
We hope you enjoyed Margie's interview with James Scott Bell. Join us next month on February 25, 2009 when her featured How-to Author will be Hallie Ephron, Writing and Selling Your Mystery Novel: How to knock 'em dead with style.
67 comments:
Wow, there is too much information here to digest in one sitting! You just touched upon POV, though. Why do you think the subject is so controversial? It seems to spark a lot of debate among writers. And how many POV characters do you think are too many for one book?
Margay
http://margayleahjustice.com
Mr. Bell, thank you so much for joining us today. I love your explanation of turning a cliche. This makes so much sense to me. I think what you're talking about is voice??
I'm curious with all of your fiction books, did writing these craft-related books enhance or make you pay closer attention to your own writing? Do you feel you have improved with every novel you've written because in essence, by drilling craft into your students, it is second nature to you. I'm embarrassed to say I don't own any of your books; I will remedy that problem immediately. Thank you!
Thanks Donnell for the heads-up this morning. Hi, Mr. Bell. I looooove your book Revision & Self-Editing!!! It is one of the best craft books I own. I recommend it to other writers all the time.
Have you found that publishers seem to be cutting word count? Any specific advice to writers that will help keep the story flowing while maintaining an economy words? I know to cut adverbs and unnecessary exposition. Any other tricks?
THANKS!
~Renee~
I'm one of your fans of PLOT & STRUCTURE, being a confirmed OP. 8-) I use it a lot, both as a writer and writing teacher. Thanks for a terrific interview! (And Margie, thanks for the heads-up in class.)
Kristi Holl
Writer's First Aid blog
Great interview! I'm going to reread both your books on writing. And I'm looking forward to the new one.
Such a treat this morning. Wow! I agree, this is a lot to digest and will be printed out for my 'how-to' file.
Plot and Structure is on the top of my recommending list. Guess I'd better get to the new one!
Thank you both so much!
Wow. Great interview! I recently got Plot & Structure, and I'm working my way through it. Do I have to limit myself to two questions??!! Okay, first, do you recommend writing a messy first draft and then putting these techniques into play in revision (in order to quell one's internal editor)? Or, are you mindful of all these techinques as you slog through your first draft?
Second, a writing teacher recommended "modeling" or typing out paragraphs from your favorite books--much like art students copy masterpieces before creating their own works. What do you think about that?
Thanks!
I love the Top 5 Irritations List, and to know that you CAN learn to write good fiction, because I'm definitely still learning thanks to folks like you.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom!
Nancy Naigle
Love stories from the crossroad of small town and suspense.
www.NancyNaigle.com
Fabulous interview, Margie! And thanks to Mr. Bell for his detailed answers. I loved Plot & Structure and keep meaning to sit down to do some plot drills. That, for me, was the gem in P&S. After reading this interview, I've decided I need to go ahead and purchase R&SE. I bet there are fantastic gems in there, too. Thanks to both of you for the wonderful post!
Thank you for sharing your insights, Mr Bell!
My question is about research. How much should a writer do to pull the reader into a time period or an unfamiliar place without overdoing it?
My third manuscript will be a time travel to the Civil War. I want to get the details right, but I have no illusions about being a female Ken Burns!
Thanks again!
Ginger
Thank you, Mr. Bell, for sharing your insights and Margie for asking such great questions!
I'm heading out to grab a copy of Plot & Structure ASAP. I learned so much just from this interview, I can't wait to read your book!
Cheers, Julie Rowe
Thank you Donnell, for giving me notice about this interview with Mr. Bell! I've taken lots of notes, but I have to echo both Margay and Ginger's questions: I don't believe in head-hopping, but how many POV characters do you recommend for a cross-genre book, beyond the obvious three. And, you mentioned you hate "exposition dumps" - what's the best way to situate a reader in the correct time and place other than putting "Los Angeles 2027 AD" at the top of the chapter. (I've seen that many times and it seems to be a cheap way of orienting the reader).
Thanks for packing so much information in to your interview. It's wonderful to get specifics, instead of motherhood statements!
Margie and Mr. Bell, the interview is fabulous! I appreciate the detailed answers and the no-frills insight offered. And HIP? Now that I will remember!
My weekly trip to B&N is tonight, and I know the book I'll snag first! Thanks again for your time, Mr. Bell. Margie and Five Scribes - outstanding as always!
Light,
Nancy Haddock
Wonderful interview!
My question for Mr. Bell concerns the word "It". I've heard and read that Fiction writers should stay away from beginning a sentence with the word "It". Can you explain why this is true and if it is true? What are some good ways to get around that infamous IT?
Thank you - Heidi
I've just started taking that 3 act thing serious in my wip. I played with it a little in my previous book and it did make a difference in writing.
With 3 acts, I can break my novel down and 'trick' my mind into thinking I'm writing 3 tiny consecutive books. It makes each section so much stronger.
-Hey, Margie!!
Thanks for the nice comments, all. I greatly appreciate it. I'll try to answer the individual questions, and apologize if I miss any:
Margay:
The POV move to avoid is switching between "heads" in a single scene. What it does is dilute intimacy, even when readers are not aware that's what's happening.As to how many POVs, if done well, you can have several. But each one has to have its own distinction and carry its own water, so to speak. Read Dean Koontz's STRANGERS sometime, for an example of how it's done.
Donnell:
I started teaching the craft in adult education outlets and writers conferences, and people seemed to respond, so I wrote the books. I do try to do the best book possible each time, and do think I learn more each time. That's why I always advocate new writers to plow through and finish that first novel. You learn a whole lot by doing that.
Renee:
Yes, as a matter of cost cutting, pubs seem to want 90,000 words more or less. Try the ol' Sol Stein trick. Find your weakest scene. It's there. Then see if you can cut it out. Completely. Then there's a NEW weakest scene. Cut that? Maybe. Most scenes can be cut by 10% or so, too. Try trimming at the front and back end. See? Writing is like cutting hair!
Peg:
I actually don't advocate thinking "messy" on the first draft, because I think it leads to a certain license in your mind that harms the story. OTOH, I don't want you to agonize, Proust-like, over ever word the first time out. I revise my previous day's work, write my daily quota, then brainstorm the next few chapters (I have probably outlined many of these already, but now can tweak them if need be).
And I do think modeling favorite writers is a good technique. You can type them, or read favorite sections into a recorder and listen. Get the rhythms down.
Ginger:
There's no single answer to the research question except, does it work? Sometimes, a well researched scene could do with FEWER details, as the story is the thing. I wrote a historical, Glimpse of Paradise, that took me months of research and hard work. Harder than any book I've written, but in many ways the most satisfying. I'd say, use the ROE equation, Return on Energy. When your research starts getting in the way of writing your story down, err on the side of story. You can clean up things later (unless an electric shaver becomes a central plot point in your Civil War narrative. Then you might have a LOT of rewriting to do).
Laurie:
As far a date orientation for a futuristic novel, if you open with details and dialogue that point to another world, the readers catch on (they've already caught on anyway because they've picked the book off the Science Fiction Shelf and looked at the back cover copy).
For example, Dwight Swain, the great writing teacher, wrote a SF novel called "The Transposed Man." It begins with pure dialogue, an obvious security guard asking the guy what his business is here, and the dialogue contains terms that are futuristic. The readers are fine with that. Specific dates, if important, can wait until later, and be dropped in naturally.
I have a question for you: what are "motherhood statements"?
Heidi:
It (sorry!) may be because "it" doesn't ground us in a POV. But I don't hold this as a hard and fast rule. If I think it will work, I'll use it. Another non-starter, some say, is "There." Usually correct, but on occasion, I'll use that, too.
Keri:
Yes, the 3 act structure helps in that regard, too.
Thank you, James!
Margay
Hi Mr. Bell. Thank you for sharing your tips with us and giving us examples. I always learn best by example!
Curving the language is a great technique. I use something similar for deep POV as well as dialogue to differentiate characters. Playing with language and viewpoint is one of the elements I most enjoy as a writer.
I look forward to reading more of your fiction and nonfiction books.
Margie, great job starting this series. :)
All the best~
Misty
www.readmistyevans.com
Hello Mr. Bell:
This is a wonderful interview and a sound justification to buy your books.
Sometimes when I am reading an author for the first time, I have a moment when I look up from the book and say, “This writer has had acting experience”. By this I mean experience acting in front of a live audience where it is possible to get immediate feedback from the audience and other actors. When I check biographies, I am usually right.
I even recommend that writers act out scenes from their WIP with friends to see what real people are actually doing (stagecraft) as they speak and if the dialogue sounds real. I found this to be big aid when writing a cliché scene like two women talking in the kitchen over coffee.
Do you think your acting experience has helped you? Have you even considered it?
Thanks,
Vince
An awesome post! I own PLOT & STRUCTURE but need to add REVISION & SELF-EDITING to my writing books. I'm in the editing phase right now and have a question: do you recommend writing an entire story and going back to edit when it is complete, or editing a chapter at a time, or editing in stops and starts? My problem right now is wanting to edit the beginning, over and over to make sure it's perfect before I get to the middle and the end. So I'm in the process of editing and I keep starting over about a quarter of the way through because I don't feel it's right and I'm not ready to move on. Another question: how do you feel about editing one story and starting a new one (so that I will continue to "write")?
Thanks so much for taking the time to be here and answer questions!
I ordered the book on Amazon and am looking forward to learning more.
Margie,
Great questions.
Scott,
I'm going to steal every idea.
Cheers!
Hello Margie and Mr. Bell,
Great interview, thank you!
Also great tip on curving dialogue, but do you recommend doing that only for the important or memorable lines in your story? Or should we be curving most of the lines of dialogue? I would be afraid that it would drift into overkill.
Thanks again.
Francelia
Vince:
Very insightful. I do think acting helps, and I often advise writers to take an improv class at a local community college or some such. Helps with character work, and an ear for dialogue.
Emma:
Well, Dean Koontz is famous for working one page at a time, until he feels it's right. He's mad, of course, and works 15 hours a day. So I'd say, resist that temptation. I talk about the 20,000 word "step back." That's a time when I pause, see if my LOCK elements are the strongest they can be. If I have to adjust something, I do, but then press on.
I do work on more than one story at a time. I always want to keep up my daily quota of "new words."
Francelia:
Yes, it would be overkill to do that with each line. It's when you need to make a line memorable, and those occasions pop up from time to time. If it seems like a character is trying too hard to be clever, it doesn't work.
You find these spots usually when you re-read your scene. A line seems flat. Cut it or curve it, or replace it with an action beat.
Looks like I've found new how-to books to buy. I like your down to earth explanations. Margie, great interview.
Just have to mention that Margie left out one of Jim Bell's important factoids: he is a powerful/speaker expositor. Trust me.
Jim, what a meaty interview. Thank you. I have devoured both of your books on writing. Have you considered writing something specifically on thinking outside the box when it comes to descriptions? This always hits me whenever I read any of Jonathan Kellerman's stuff. Who else would think of saying that that the kitchen light was the yellow-gray of old phlegm? Ew-w-w. But, it's brilliant.
Once again, thank you. Thank you for the time you take to invest in the rest of us. It's value will be eternal.
Very helpful tips! I wish I could just sit at both of your tables for weeks on end soaking up your knowledge. I'm blessed to learn from you.
Angie
I've tried this once already, let's see if I can get this one to go through.
I enjoyed the interview so much that I went to Amazon and ordered Mr. Bell's books on writing.
Margie, thanks for a great interview.
Margie and Mr. Bell, In under three minutes, I've learned loads. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Mr. Bell's idea of curved dialogue and force fields. They compliment Margie's teaching of fresh writing and mind mapping.
My copy of Plot and Structure is worn from use. I'll definitely be buying Revisions and Self-editing, and Deceived. I love the cover BTW. di
What a great interview stuffed pearls of wisdom.
Great job, Margie.
Jim, as always your clear explanations help techniques fall into place in my head. Plot and Structure helped things click for me, and I'll never forget all the pearls I gathered from you at ACFW Conference in Dallas. Same here with this interview post.
Thanks both of you,
Judythe
Wow, alot of food fro thought. I am going to go out and this book to my "How to Library". I love your ideas and concepts.
That was indeed a lot of information and I will have to seek out James's books!
And sometimes it's nice to hear that one IS doing something right with their writing. Hooking in the first line and then dropping back for description is something I do often!
L. Diane Wolfe
www.circleoffriendsbooks.blogspot.com
www.spunkonastick.net
www.thecircleoffriends.net
Jim (and Margie),
I learned a lot. I'm looking forward to your next book (Margie, your's too).
I'm reading James Scott Bell's book "Revision and Self-Editing" now. So far, I find it very helpful. Margie, your interview here gets the writing juices gushing. Thanks.
I can see that I'm going to have to get PLOT & STRUCTURE. You had so much good information. Your ideas in Beginning Strong are great. I had been told by someone that even though I had an exciting beginning for my mystery, she would have liked to have seen an "ordinary day" beginning and then go into the crisis in the story. I think an "ordinary day" would turn a mystery editor off. Am I missing something by wanting to start with a bang or is that person wrong? Thanks for some wonderful ideas.
Darlene
Excellent interview, Margie. Mr. Bell you're terrific! Thank you both.
I'm off to give my VISA an airing.:)
Thank you Mr. Bell and Margie for your great interview. I had checking on this blog on my "to do" list today, and I'm very glad I did. This couldn't have come at a better time for me, as I am in the editing stage of my novel and these tips and insights on how to make it better are just what I needed. Thank you!
Betsy
Wow, that is just awesome! Great interview - great tips - great replies to the questions! I'm definitely printing this one out.
Thank you both!
Meagan~
Thanks for the interview, some of it clanged my memory bell from Mt. Hermon. I'm going back to look at those notes again, listen to the cd and re-read plot and structure. Should I mention I LOVE LOVE LOVE your fiction too?
This was a wonderful, info-filled blog post which excited me about getting down to editing :) Thank you both!
Mr. Bell,
What a great interview! I took notes:) Now I'm in a big hurry to read your novels to see for myself how it's done. I was really surprised and interested in "The Force Field of Character Change." This seems important to me and I'm eager to learn more. Is it explained in depth in either of your writing craft books?
I have your Plot and Structure, all highlighted and marked and refer to it like you said you did other books on writing. It does get me excited.
I recently showed the opening paragraphs of Try Darkness to a high school writing class I teach, and they loved it and began writing down the title to get a copy.
I had not yet heard the term "curving the dialogue" but had begun doing just that in my WIP. I was inspired to do it from reading the dialogue in some of your books. So you inspire both on the teaching end and on the example end! But I'll be getting the book on editing now too.
I'd love to take a class from you at the ACFW conference on writing dialogue! (Hint, hint fully intended!)
Thanks for blessing us today!
Teri D. Smith
Welcome Margie and Mr. Bell to Five Scribes.
In our list of favorite How-To books, Mr. Bell's, Plot and Structure was mentioned by all of us. Can't wait to read Art of War....!!!!
As the screenwriter of the scribes, I'm always trying to find new ways to work dialogue and make it do double, triple duty. I like the idea of "curving the language." It's another tool for the tool box.
I heartily agree with your assessment of writing books. You can always learn something and the more proficient or maybe the word is experienced you become, you start finding nuggets of gold instead of entire veins of precious information that awed us when were just starting out.
Thank you both for the incredible interview.
~LA of the scribes.
Hi Scott!!!
Your Plot and Structure book is the first book on the craft I read and it really helped me. I was first in line to get your editing one and now waiting for you Art of War, sounds really interesting.
Now for my question....
When plotting with the 3 acts, how do you carry this for a series, trilogy or what not?
Thanks Margie for having such a great interview today!!!
Marie-Claude :)
Mr. Bell -
You say that you work on more than one story at a time so that you can keep up your daily quota of new words. Can you tell us what a normal day would look like for you - assuming you have heavy editing to do as well as your daily quota? New words first, editing first, turn e-mail off, etc.?
Thanks - Heidi
Hi All,
Margie thanks for bring one of my favorite craft book authors to the Five Scribes and for doing such a wonderful job interviewing him!
Mr Bell, I've been a long time fan and reread your book on plot and structure before each revision. Thanks so much for sharing with all of us.
Just wondering, but do you ever get stuck for that first line of a new story? What's the toughest part of writing a new book for you--and please don't say simply finding the time to sit our butt in the chair.
Jim --
Thank you for sharing your brain and your time today. I appreciate both.
I use examples of your stellar writing in all my editing courses. I'm currently analyzing how writers hook the reader with suprise and humor, how it's slipped in and gives the reader an uplift -- in moments that are light, as well as moments that are emotionally loaded. Here are examples of both moments from TRY DARKNESS:
A LIGHT TOUCH:
Her nostrils actually flared. Ricky Ricardo could not have done it any better.
ON THE SERIOUS SIDE. THIS EXAMPLE IS TWO PARAGRAPHS:
I'd never been a father. But now, filled with something primal, I knew what it must be like to have a daughter who comes to you in the night, frightened of darkness or dream, and you are the one she seeks, and you know you will do anything to protect her. Anything.
I knew this without pause or analysis or Dr. Phil.
JIM -- I could fill pages analyzing those lines! Love the content, cadence, power words, universal message, rhetorical devices, backloading, and psychological punch.
MY QUESTION: What was going through your mind when you thought of that last line and wrote 'Dr. Phil?' It works beautifully. I'm just curious. Always.
I hope you'll be our guest again when THE ART OF WAR FOR FICTION WRITERS is released.
Best.............Margie
Margie, welcome back from a hard day at the office ;) As you can see your first How To Interview was a huge success. Mr. Bell, we are in your debt for taking time out of your busy day and sharing your expertise. The Five Scribes are honored to host these interviews. Imagine, having such educational opportunities on one's doorstep. Thanks again!
The Force Field of Character Change. That phrase and the explanation of the force field brought all kinds of visuals to my mind. I own the Revision Book (a recent purchase) but haven't taken the time to sit down with it. Now I'm going to have to make that time.
Thanks for such a wonderful interview.
Pam Scheibe
I have the damnedest time staying in the character's head in 3rd person POV. I don't even know I've strayed till someone points it out to me saying it was jarring. Any tips that will tell me when I'm veering off track? Eye-opening interview by the way- I definitely need that book!
Well! What an interesting interview, Margie! I've learned so much from reading it that I know I *must* buy Jason's books. I think I already have Plot and Structure, but I'll pick up Revision and Self Editing. The terms he uses, like HIP, Force Field of Character Change, and six tasks of STARTING STRONG, show he has a craftsman's understanding of writing rather than academic. I'm grateful to James for his generose sharing and to you, Margie, for taking the time to interview him.
Blessings!!! Terrel
Hi Scott & Margie,
What a fabulous interview. I wish I could've read it way back when. :) I had a horrible habit of abusing "s/he said ~ly" when I was a newbie. Lots of gems in the interview. :)
Folks, I seem to have come down with a little something. Been in bed for the last few hours. Not writing! I'll try to get some more comments up tomorrow. Thanks for the kind words.
Wow! So much to absorb! You just sold more books, Mr. Bell, because I'm getting them too.
Hope you feel better very soon!
And thank you, Margie, for doing this insighful interview.
Cheryel
Food for thought! I found my education did a lot to improve my writing by experimenting with different styles and types of writing. I also discovered when I went outside my "comfort reading zone" I had a better perspective of writing.
Thanks Mr. Bell. I can't wait to read your book.
Thank you Mr. Bell and Ms. Lawson for an informative and well conceived interview. This old dog has learned a few new tricks.
I am curious though about what you said concerning "intensity' - how it usually could be raised.
Is there a point where there might be too much intensity ? If so could you explain to us the red flags of warning concerning this ? If not, ignore my question. (Pretend I am a voice of reason at a Hollywood party.)
Thank you for your time in answering these questions and I hope you get better soon.
Frank
Fantastic interview, Margie and Jim! Thanks so much! I'm ready to dig out Jim's craft books again -- though the tips in this interview are great refreshers in themselves.
Wow! I'm almost out of breath. What a great interview. Thanks for sharing all that wonderful stuff!
Wow! Lots of information to digest! I have put your books on my Amazon want-list with high priority.
TY again!
Stefanie
This blog is equal to a course. wonderful information.
What a dynamite blog day!
Thank you all for joining us today for the Ask a How-to Author Series. Loved the strong questions and the strong answers.
Jim -- Sorry you aren't feeling well. We look forward to answers to more of these questions when you are better. The responses you shared today are gems. Thank you!
TWO DRAWINGS!
TWO WINNERS!
TRICIA WOOD won a signed hard cover of PLOT & STRUCTURE!
VALERIE K. won a Lecture Packet from me.
TRICIA and VALERIE -- Please contact me, Margie@MargieLawson.com.
I'll be back on the LAST WEDNESDAY of February with HALLIE EPHRON, author of WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL: HOW TO KNOCK 'EM DEAD WITH STYLE.
Join us on Feb. 25th for another learning opportunity with Hallie Ephron.
Thanks also to the FIVE SCRIBES for hosting the Ask a How-to Author series. You all are the best!
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Attention: Valerie K!!! You have won one of Margie Lawson's lecture packets. I can't seem to find your e-mail or your address on any of your blogs. Will you contact me, Donnell Bell, through the link on the Five Scribes blog. Thank you, and congratulations!
Donnell
Just a Note:
"Plot & Structure" is available as a Sony eBook. Also, several of the novels can be downloaded.
Vince
Mr. Bell, and ladies,
a "motherhood statement" is a broad generalization that is almost a cliche. Although I love President Obama (and I'm Canadian!) many of his statements in his speeches are examples of this: "the time is now for change!" What change? When?
Re: teaching a writing lesson, a motherhood statement is repeating the obvious that most beginners have heard before - "write what you know", "have the hero and heroine exact opposites - if he's a firefighter, she's an arsonist" I personally hate that one).
Mr. Bell, you gave us direct examples from your books and lists of things that we can use immediately without generalizing. We've all appreciated that so much.
So, a "motherhood statement" is any cliche or broad generalization related to a subject. And thank you for answering my time and place question.
Great interview. Donnell, thanks for letting us know about it. - Karin
What an amazing interview, Margie! Thank you for bring Mr. Bell to the Five Scribes.
I'm such a fan of Plot & Structure, thank you for taking the learning curve down for those of us who have been writing for years, too.
Thank you for your time!! Please come back some time??
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