Monday, February 23, 2009

Writing and Selling Your Mystery Novel with Hallie Ephron

Welcome to the How-to Author Interview Series!

February’s Featured How-to Author: HALLIE EPHRON!

This monthly series is your opportunity to dig deep and ask how-to authors your hot questions.

Post a comment today – and you may win:
  • A signed copy of WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, How to Knock ‘em Dead with Style, by Hallie Ephron
  • A Lecture Packet from me, Margie Lawson
A big Thank You to Hallie Ephron for joining us today. She’ll drop by the Five Scribes blog several times to respond to posts.

As promised in the promo, Factoids and Funtoids about Hallie Ephron!

Factoids:

  • Author of the standalone psychological suspense novel, NEVER TELL A LIE
  • Writing teacher and author of WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, nominated for Edgar and for Anthony awards
  • Author of 1001 BOOKS FOR EVERY MOOD
  • Award-winning Book Reviewer of crime fiction for the Boston Globe
Funtoids:
  • Hallie lives near Boston in a house furnished with items she and her husband picked up at yard sales
Hallie’s parents were Hollywood screenwriters, all three of her sisters are published writers, and her daughter is a writer. Her website is www.HallieEphron.com

Starred Review in Publishers Weekly for NEVER TELL A LIE:

An innocent yard sale jump-starts this stunning stand-alone thriller from Ephron, author of Amnesia and four other mysteries written with Donald Davidoff under the name G.H. Ephron (and one of the Ephron writing sisters), as well as two nonfiction books.

Ivy and David Rose, happily married high school sweethearts, are trying to clear out the junk the previous owner left in their glorious Victorian in Brush Hills, Mass., before the birth of their first child. Among the bargain hunters is Melinda White, a high school classmate who's also pregnant. Considered an oddball in school, Melinda worries about “more bad luck” after nearly knocking over a large mirror. When Melinda disappears and no one can remember seeing her leave the sale, the evidence suggests the couple murdered her. Ephron doesn't miss a searing beat as she plunges the Roses into an abyss of suspicion. A surprise toward the end provides the perfect twist to this deliciously creepy tale of obsession.

Hallie Ephron Interview
By Margie Lawson

ML: In WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, How to Knock ‘em Dead with Style, you provide thorough and logical steps outlining how to write a mystery. How closely did you follow your own advice when you wrote your psychological thriller, NEVER TELL A LIE?

HE: I confess, I disregarded all of my advice about staking out the plot, structuring the book in three acts, and so on. I just started with my premise, made a few sketchy notes, and started writing. The result was an ugly, three-year-long process. Having said that, I’m thrilled with the result. Which just goes to prove something, I’m not sure what.

For my new book I have a contract and a deadline, so my writing process is much more systematic and hopefully will be a lot faster.

ML: In the chapter on Writing Investigation: Clues, Red Herrings, and Misdirection, you share some pointers under the heading, Investigation: Observing and Interrogating. What do you caution mystery writers NOT to do?

HE: The biggest “don’t”: “Don’t spoon-feed the reader.” I hate over-narrated books where every little observation the detective makes is explained ad nauseum.

For example, suppose your sleuth notices white lines scarring a woman’s wrist--you don’t have to deliver the obvious news bulletin: she survived a suicide attempt. Your readers are smart. Let them do some of the work connecting the dots.

ML: In the Innocent Suspects' chapter, you listed thirteen devices to make innocent suspects look guilty. What are your top five?

HE: Here you go:

1. Has an obvious motive (e.g. had been blackmailed/jilted/cheated/etc. by the victim)

2. Stonewalls (says he can’t remember or refuses to answer questions)

3. Is overeager to answer questions (provides bushels of information that implicates others)

4. Disappears

5. My favorite: Displays contradictory behavior (e.g. a self-professed tea-totaller is seen drinking in a bar a few hours after the murder; or a gun control advocate has an NRA membership card in his wallet)

ML: Genre writers know they have to hook the reader with a dynamite opening. In mysteries, that killer opening is often a body drop. You recommend opening with a murder or an out-of-whack event that has a mystery element. What are some examples of out-of-whack events and what made them work well?

HE: My new book, NEVER TELL A LIE, opens with a brief news story about the disappearance of a pregnant woman who was last seen at a yard sale. Then, Chapter 1 dramatizes the yard sale where she was last seen, four days earlier. The reader knows that the woman is going to go inside that house and she’s not going to come out. So what might be a gentle suburban scene takes on a layer of tension and suspense. The woman’s disappearance is an out-of-whack event that derails my main character’s life at just the point when she and her husband seem to be the couple that “has everything.”

Here are examples of other openings I love because they throw the characters off balance:

- A baby is left on the steps of a church (Julia Spencer-Fleming, IN THE BLEAK MIDWINTER)

- A detective is thrown from the sixth-floor window of a burning hotel (T. Jefferson Parker, THE FALLEN)

- A murder suspect greets her attorney: “Pleased to meet you, I’m your twin.” (Lisa Scottoline, MISTAKEN IDENTITY)

ML: Your chapter on Writing Action is power-packed. Could you share four ideas with our blog guests on how to make action passages spare, effective, and riveting?

HE: Verbs, verbs, verbs, verbs. Seriously. Make them active and pick them carefully to **show** the action you’re trying to depict. Hold the adverbs. And use internal dialogue and description only if you’re deliberately trying to slow down the action.

ML: In the chapter on Staking Out the Plot you identify several ways to plague your protagonist. Which are your favorites, and why?

HE: My favorite: raising the stakes. As the book barrels toward its conclusion, insert ticking clock. A deadline when something bad is going to happen. (In NEVER TELL A LIE, it’s childbirth.)

ML: Mystery writers rely on research for authenticity. What sources do you recommend for mystery writers to get forensics right?

HE: I rely on my local police to get the police procedure right. On general police procedure and crime-scene investigation and ballistics, I often ask Lee Lofland (www.leelofland.com) whose wonderful blog The Graveyard Shift is full of great information.

Lee Lofland wrote THE BOOK on police procedure (POLICE PROCEDURE AND INVESTIGATION). Also D. P. Lyle, MD (www.dplylemd.com/) answers any and all questions from mystery writers about medical forensics and has several books out there, including FORENSICS: A Guide for Writers (2008).

ML: Switching to a question about your time-line of writing your novels: How long does it typically take you to complete a first draft? How long do you spend on revision and what does your revision process entail?

HE: When I’m cookin’, it takes about six months to write a first draft, another six weeks or so to revise it and send it to my agent. She always has comments that need to be addressed, and we go back and forth -- add another six or eight weeks before it’s completely cooked.

ML: Hallie, Here’s a tough question. Were there times when you were writing NEVER TELL A LIE that you got stuck? If so – how did you move forward?

HE: More times than I can count…usually I knew what was “supposed” to happen next but couldn’t get the characters to go there. I’ve learned to listen when that happens. I never want my plot to “herd” my characters. I have lots of strategies that sometimes work and sometimes don’t:

- Brainstorm…try to imagine as many different things that could happen next instead of what I thought was going to happen next

- Revise the preceding 50 pages and see if that helps

- Mind map – make a diagram of my plot and see if that triggers ideas

- Give it to my writing group and beg their advice

But honestly, it’s when I’ve been trying and trying to move forward and then stop trying (take a shower, drive to Connecticut, swim, fry chicken…) that the Aha! comes to me and I know how to move forward.

ML: You love revising. What’s your favorite part about revising?

HE: For me revising involves both paring away (wherever I told the reader something they could have figured out or where I repeated myself) and adding (usually I need more inner dialogue, characterization, or a few more beats to stretch out a dramatic moment). My favorite part of revising is reading what I’ve written, and realizing that I’m close to being done.

ML: Here’s your final question. WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL was published four years ago. If you were writing it now, what would you add?

HE: That’s easy. I’d add a chapter on secrets. I wrote about clues and red herrings, but what I’ve come to realize is that secrets are what make a crime novel work. All the characters (victims, suspects, villains, even the sleuth) have them, and they lie (to others and to themselves) to cover them up. Clues and red herrings can feel mechanical, but secrets are integral to characterization. I give a workshop called “Plotting: The Secret is in the Secrets” and people have found it enormously helpful, both in creating a taut, compelling story and in addressing the problem of “the mushy middle.”

Hallie, I appreciate your expertise, your insights, and your candid responses. Thank you for being our guest today – and for taking the time to respond to blog questions and comments.

With your how-to book, WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, and the how-to forensics books by Lee Lofland and D.P. Lyle, writers will have the power tools needed to write a page-turner.

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Chime in! We’ll have two winners today!

1. A Lecture Packet from me, Margie Lawson

2. A signed copy of WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, How to Knock ‘em Dead with Style.

Interesting that Hallie mentioned two of her authentic research sources because we rely on them too. Join us March 25, 2009 when Lee Lofland, author of Police Procedure & Investigation, will be our featured How-to Author. Then later in 2009 D.P. Lyle, M.D. will be our guest How-to Author as he answers questions about Forensics: A Guide for Writers (2008).

32 comments:

jwhit said...

For once I'm ahead of the dateline as an advantage! Hi, Hallie. What is your view on different types of mysteries, perhaps those that don't include a murder per se, but different types of death or even no death at all?

Story Examples: missing persons, accidental death, other sorts of crime.

Do you think they can still find a place as mysteries and sell as such?

Thanks!
Jan in Melbourne
(I don't mind a good yard sale or even the hard rubbish day for recycling stuff myself!)

Devon Gray said...

Great interview! I especially enjoyed reading your take on revising. I am in the midst of revisions now, and I believe I've taught myself to hate them. A change of perspective will make them more tolerable. Thanks for sharing with us!

Devon Gray

Jaxine Daniels said...

Margie, great interview. What a treat. Gave us just enough to want the whole book. I think the bit about secrets was a real 'aha' for me. I left myself a note to make sure I know my characters secrets.

Can't wait for the next installment.

Jax

Marianne said...

I too loved the "secerts" tip. I'm going to look at my work in progress and see if my gang of suspects all have a secert they want to keep.

Thanks for the great interview!

Marianne Donley

Edie said...

Terrific interview! This is helpful advice to romance writers too. I'm going to give each of my characters a secret and see what happens.

Donnell said...

Hallie, you come from a family of storytellers; I'm curious what it was like around *your* dinner table. Thanks for taking the time to talk to Margie and for sharing your expertise with us. I particularly related to your words about not leading the reader and giving them credit. I agree readers, particularly mystery readers, are there for the ride. Lead them and you take away some of their joy. Thanks again!

Emma Sanders said...

This is great. Soon I'll start the process of plotting my next novel, and I've never been a good outliner. I'm a very slow writer because I do it the way you described (sketchy notes and just writing without a true story goal hoping that it will come to me as I write). So my goal is to be better with outlining and structuring my next novel. I'd love to know more about structuring the story in three acts. Thanks for your tips!

Lynnette Baughman said...

Thanks, Hallie and Margie. So many blogs are time-sucks, but this was terrific. I took your class in Tacoma last April (Margie) and it improved my writing exponentially.
Five Scribes is the best blog I've visited. Thanks to all of you!
Lynnette

Debra E Marvin said...

Thanks Hallie! I'm printing this off for my keepers book--what a lot of good advice and a look at what is inside your book. And everything you describe will work for any genre.

I have a question on protagonists, and will check back to see more of your responses.

How do you choose someone who may well be back again in the next book? In a cozy especially, you must get your reader to believe this person just happens to have people dying around them again and again. In an investigator/detector setting, you don't have the same hurdle, but it seems characterization may be more involved to flesh out a normally tough-edged protag.

In other words--How do you choose someone with whom you may have a long term commitment?

Jean said...

Great idea about the secret! Just pondering what secret my heroine may have is starting the wheels turning.

I'm definitely going to be applying this tip.

Vince said...

Hello Hallie:

I particularly like it when the detective makes deductions based on what the suspect did not say. This is the so-called, listening to the silence technique. Have you used this technique in your books and do you mention it in your How To book? I’d like to know more about how a writer does this.

Thanks,
Vince

Chris Roerden said...

Great interview, Hallie & Margie.
About those secrets, writers who haven't already heard of the first ever pre-Bouchercon Writers' Day might like to know of Hallie's workshop on Secrets and Plotting on October 14 in Indianapolis. It's sponsored by Sisters in Crime, with full details on the organization's website under "SinC Into Great Writing." The day's headliners are Donald Maass and Nancy Pickard. I'll have to miss Hallie's session because I'll be next door presenting a workshop on Voice and Submissions.

My question to Hallie is this: When you create a timeline showing who learns whose secrets and when, do you keep that timeline separate from or merged with the larger record that tracks when all events occur? One of the challenges I face when editing is identifying on the first pass-through the bits of information that the writer intends to be a secret.

Chris Roerden

Hallie Ephron said...

GREAT COMMENTS AND QUESTOINS!!

Hey, Jan --
I think a mystery has to have an intriguing puzzle, and though I like whodunnit's with a murder, I also love whatsgoingonhere's (which is more what my book is). Of COURSE they can find a place in mysteries...look at Alexander McCall Smith's wonderful #1 Ladies Detective Agency books...lots of mysteries, precious few murders, all bestsellers.

Hey, Devon --
Enjoy revising! But I have to say, I've observed that there are lots of other authors who LOVE first draft and HATE revision, so you're not alone.

Hey, Donnell --
Around our dinner tables (the food was great) the competition for air time was Darwinian. Everyone wanted to talk, and the brass ring was when you could make our parents laugh. We also, believe it or not, used to recite poetry and sing rounds over dessert.

Hi, Emma --
Another thing that works for me, even better than an outline, is a detailed synopsis. It's like writing jacket copy, but starting with the opening scene of your book and telling it fast forward through the end. Then there's less problem with the writing the connective tissue--linking one moment to the next.

Hey, Debra --
Love that question: "In other words--How do you choose a character with whom you may have a long term commitment?" I remember once interviewing Tess Gerritsen and she said she'd intended to kill off both Dr. Maura Isles and Jane Rizzolli, but then got too attached to them. When you're writing a series, it's a conscious choice of who's in your 'repeating cast' and who's expendable. But sometimes you'll turn out to be wrong.

Hi, Vince --
Yes, I love it when the detective makes deductions based on what the suspect did not say, too. And I'd expand it to noticing the clue that SHOULD HAVE been there but wasn't. It's the old Sherlock Holmes about the dog that DIDN'T bark in the night. I used that technique in one of my books.

Hallie Ephron said...

Hey, Chris! Happy to see you here! Chris is teaching a a pre-Bouchercon SinC writing workshop, too, opposite mine, on "Don't Sabotage Your Submission."

Chris, I've kept that timeline of who-knows-what-secrets-when separate from my outline. But I insert key plot points so that I can synch it up with my outline.

Shannon said...

Hallie- thanks for the taste of great information. I had already put NEVER TELL A LIE on my must read list last week after running across an excerpt. Now I have another of your books to add! Anyway, my question is about having a surprise twist? How neccessary to mysteries do you think they are? I have a hard time because if I can guess where the story is going, I get bored. On the other hand, it seems like the twisted ending is being used so much, it's almost expected. Thoughts?

(And thanks for doing a great interview, Margie!)

Peg said...

I love what you said about secrets...have you ever done your Plotting/Secrets workshop as an onlne one?
As soon as I'm ready to revise my almost-complete wip, I'm going backand giving everyone more secrets!

Margie Lawson said...

Hallie -

I asked you to share your Top Five devices to make innocent suspects look guilty. You listed thirteen in your book. Want to give us a few more?

I'd love to know how you've used one of your devices in your novels -- cracks in the veneer.

It sounds dark and twisty and fun!

Thanks again for being our guest today. ;-)

Margie Lawson said...

Chris - Great to see you here!

I'm looking forward to featuring you as our How-to Author in July. Your how-to books, Don't Murder Your Mystery, and Don't Sabotage Your Submission, are dynamite reads.

Wish I could see you and Hallie presenting at the pre-Bouchercon Writers' Day!

Marilyn Baron said...

This was a great interview. Thank you Hallie and Margie. I really learned a lot.

I'm writing a romantic suspense and I am going to utilize a lot of your advice.

I especially loved the advice about secrets. But my favorite was

"Stop Trying. Start Frying."
(Chicken that is). I love fried chicken. What a great way to get unstuck!

Well, I can't wait to read your novel. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk about how you write and being so generous with your advice.

One question: How do you feel about Prologues. I don't generally use them but in my last round of revisions, I added one in.


Marilyn Baron

Hallie Ephron said...

Shannon asked: How necessary to mysteries is a surprise twist. I'd say ESSENTIAL. Readers crave surprise. (Not surprises that seem so outlandish as to be unbelievable, but surprises that we should have seen coming but didn't.) If your novel is short on great surprise twists, it had better have extraordinarily interesting characters to compensate.

Peg: Nope, I've never done the secrets workshop online. I've never given an online workshop at all. But it's a great idea.

Margie: Okay, two more says to make an innocent character look guilty.
- Discover that his or her "real" mother was a serial killer
- Discover a similar crime in the character's past for which they were exonerated

Marilyn: Can you hear me laughing!!
STOP TRYING. START FRYING. Makes a great bumper sticker.

And as for prologues, I have no strong feelings pro or con. I like them when they work. I don't like them when they feel tacked on, apparently because the book's real chapter-one wasn't interesting enough.

Leslie Ann said...

Hi Hallie and welcome to Five Scribes.

I loved the workshop prior to Bouchercon when it was in Denver.

Great interview, I noticed you're using some screenwriting tricks to make quicken the pace, keep the reader turning the pages!

And I love the idea of secrets. They're irrestible for people to leave alone, don't you think?

Thanks Hallie and Margie,
~LA, resident screenwriter of Five Scribes.

magolla said...

Wow, great info. I'm definitely putting WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL on my wish list (unless, of course, I win it!) I'm writing a middle-grade novel and there's a mystery in the background. This is exactly what I need!
Thanks for a great interview!

Leslie Ann said...

Lynette,
Thank you for your high praise of Five Scribes. We're not even a year old yet and it's been a fun and crazy ride!
Hugs
~LA

Donnell said...

Hallie, first off I disqualify myself from winning your book ... sobbing here ;) or Margie's lectures ;) but I just have to echo kudos to your common sense answer on prologues. We had a wonderful Five Scribe article written by Author Renee Ryan on prologues. I urge people if they're considering writing one to read this article, because Renee nails when they're necessary and when they're not. Thanks again!

Libby McKinmer said...

Fascinating interview -- thank you so much!!

RK said...

Great interview! Enjoyed it. One of these days I've to make it to Bouchercon.

Thanks for your insights on beginnings Hallie. Any words on what makes a great ending?

Thanks!

Debbie Kaufman said...

Hi Hallie and Margie:
Great post. Darn it, now I know another book I want :)). I think I really get the "out-of-whack" event. My protagonist comes home to an unconscious gunshot victim, a man who left her waiting the night they were to elope fifteen years ago and that she hasn't seen since. And, it gets more complicated from their. Secrets, yes. Working on the ticking clock idea. Where I get stuck is in deciding how my true villain will get caught. So far, I think it's too easy, too trite at the end. So, any advice about how to get your bad guy caught without it being too easy?

Nancy said...

Hallie, I'm late to the blog today, but I'm an admirer. And your books are on my to buy list! Thank you for sharing so much in the interview!

Thanks to Margie, too!

Light,
Nancy Haddock

Rannza said...

Hi

Thank you for the fascinating and useful interview.

I have Hallie's book- it's really good!

Please enter me in the drawing for Margie's lecture pack, I'd love to win one!

Thank you

Ruth Dell

ruthdell [at] mweb.co.za

Margie Lawson said...

Thanks to Hallie for joining us and sharing her expertise!

Drop by Hallie's website, www.HallieEphron.com and treat yourself to her book reviews and links to her reviews of crime novels for the Boston Globe.

As always, thanks to the FIVE SCRIBES for hosting the How-to Author Interview series. I appreciate you all. :-)

Ah -- the WINNERS!

Check the next post!

All smiles..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com

Hallie Ephron said...

Oh, Debbie, I hear you: too easy, too trite at the end. Endings, I think, are the single hardest part of a mystery to get right. I reworked my ending of Never Tell a Lie at least two dozen times making drastic changes each time out until it felt sufficiently credible, surprising, and satisfying. How to get the bad guy caught without it being too easy... I guess part of the trick is to create a really worthy villain in the first place.

AND Thanks Margie!! Thanks 5 Scribes... and thanks to everyone who joined in!

If you're within striking distance and are interested in a fall weekend writing retreat at the seashore, check out my web site for information on SEASCAPE RETREAT TO WRITE.

- Hallie

Margie Lawson said...

THE WINNERS!

JAN-FROM-MELBOURNE won a Lecture Packet from me!

Jan, please e-mail me and let me know which Lecture Packet you'd like:
-- Empowering Characters' Emotions
-- Deep Editing: The EDITS System, Rhetorical Devices, and More
-- Defeat Self-Defeating Behaviors
-- Digging Deep Into the EDITS System
-- Writing Body Language Like a Psychologist
-- Powering Up Body Language in Real Life

MARILYN BARON -- won a signed copy of WRITING AND SELLING YOUR MYSTERY NOVEL, by Hallie Ephron!

Marilyn, please e-mail me with your mailing address. I'll send the book to you ASAP!

margie@margielawson.com

THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!

See you on MARCH 25th when we feature:
LEE LOFLAND, author of POLICE PROCEDURE & INVESTIGATION!

Check out Lee's web site:
www.leelofland.com, and his incredible and informative all-things-police-related blog, The Graveyard Shift.

All smiles.........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com